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flying club meeting

I hate it when they last two hours. At least I'm not Mr. Lord President any more.

We did have another interested potential member, yet another ER physician. I swear, we are all doctors, university faculty, and me. And it was the annual elections, in which I studiously avoided getting myself nominated for anything but did allow myself to be reappointed avionics officer. My first order of business apparently is to get a new ADF for 59H. It's been flaky for a long time, but no one ever flies NDB approaches any more, so I was starting to advocate just getting rid of the damn thing, but apparently the consensus of the club is that we need a new one, which will be $3000. This after we just replaced a DG ($800) and a VOR head ($1200).

The most interesting thing we did today was to institute a new billing rule where everyone will get charged for one hour of flight time for each month from April to July, and then will have the rest of the year to "fly it off". This will force certain people to stay more current, will guarantee the planes fly at least 80 more hours a year, or failing that will get over $5000 of "free money" in the treasury. I'm sure some people will bitch, but I mean really... why be part owner of two airplanes if you're not going to fly at least four hours a year?

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planegirl
Feb. 27th, 2004 11:09 am (UTC)
two fer
You could get an RMI to replace both the ADF and VOR (it won't do ILS recieving, though.)
szasz
Feb. 27th, 2004 12:21 pm (UTC)
Re: two fer
Isn't the RMI just the display head, though? Wouldn't it still need a separate ADF radio to provide its input?
szasz
Feb. 27th, 2004 12:22 pm (UTC)
Re: two fer
...although the idea of the ADF indicator being closer to the pilot is a good one. The ADF is mounted WAY to the right of the panel in our planes, it's really difficult to keep it in the scan on an NDB approach.

I should investigate, I guess.
planegirl
Feb. 27th, 2004 05:16 pm (UTC)
Re: two fer
yes the radio and antenna is still required
szasz
Feb. 27th, 2004 05:40 pm (UTC)
Re: two fer
...and I've spent an hour tonight trying to work out whether our existing stack uses the "XYZ Synchro" signal or the "DC-sine-cosine" signals to send to the display heads. It turns out the web is a very poor place to research avionics.

I suspect people will balk at a new ADF *and* a new display head. But who knows, we haven't had any avionics upgrades in years and no one seems interested in a GPS.
szasz
Feb. 29th, 2004 10:13 am (UTC)
Re: two fer
So the RMI replaces the ADF, one VOR, *and* the DG. And apparently they are not popular at all these days since if anyone can afford an RMI, they are getting HSI's instead. This'd be really awesome except HSI's are $8000-$12000.

A modern ADF receiver like the KR-87 is $3000 but all the new ones have a separate display head, and we're out of holes in the cockpit for that. I can get an old technology one but if I'm going to do that I may as well just get an old refurbed KR-86 which is what we've got now, for about $1500.

The sucky thing about avionics is that the stuff you really want is too expensive to afford.
planegirl
Feb. 29th, 2004 11:07 am (UTC)
Re: two fer
Amen!
pilotgoddess
Feb. 29th, 2004 10:10 am (UTC)
I would go for a used GPS as opposed to a new ADF receiver. I think once it was installed, it would get waaayy more use. But that's just me :) NDB's are eeeviiil :)
szasz
Feb. 29th, 2004 10:35 am (UTC)
That's what I told them at the club meeting, but the serious IFR pilots are dead against a panel GPS. They say RNAV does the job better and without the $1000/year database updates. Of course we don't have an RNAV either.

And when I mentioned removing the ADF altogether people balked and started rattling off podunk airports that only have NDB approaches (all of which, I can point out, have overlain GPS approaches!). And that you still need an NDB for flight training (which is a good point).

Personally, I think this is sort of thinking in the past, since GPs approaches are only going to get more and more worked into the ATC system and it will become a more and more reasonable system to have. And even now, GPS receivers are cheaper than RNAV units. But I'm not a high-time IFR pilot so I don't know all the intuitive operational issues.

I really appreciate both you guys' advice though.
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